Expect the Unexpected with Anya Fedorowicz

After vacationing in Isla Mujeres Mexico for a decade, Anya Fedorowicz made a plan to move to the island permanently in 2022. To her delight, the plan unfolded much faster than she expected. She resigned from her long time Montessori school teaching position in Michigan, sold most of her belongings and never looked back. She's fallen in love with her new slower paced overseas life.

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Welcome. You are listening to the Overseas Life Redesign podcast where you'll hear fine, relaxed and inspirational interviews with people who are really living the dream. I'm Dawn Fleming and attorney turned alchemist and your host for the show coming to you from the tropical island paradise of Isla Mujeres, Mexico. Listen to conversations with courageous souls who step out of their comfort zone and designed a new way of life. They'll share their experiences, wisdom, and offer practical steps you can take to redesign your life overseas. Listen, and you'll believe if you can dream it. You can achieve it.

Dawn Fleming

00:43 - 01:04

Okay. I'm sitting here today with my friend Anya Fedorowicz and just found out she's from Michigan. Another, another M state girl. some Michigan. Yup. So, we're going to just, have a conversation about her overseas life redesign and, thank you so much for taking the time to speak with me.

Anya Fedorowicz

01:04 - 01:07

Thanks for the invitation. And it's my pleasure. Awesome.

Dawn Fleming

01:08 - 01:16

Well, cool. So I am really interested to hear, like what prompted this whole thing How did you, how did you get here

Anya Fedorowicz

01:16 - 02:13

Well, I think like probably most tourists who become residents here, I traveled to the island and enjoy vacationing probably for a good nine or 10 years. Oh, wow. Okay. So I knew the island from a tourist perspective and every time I would leave the island, it got a little bit harder. And I remember just the sadness feeling sad, very, and coming from Michigan, you know, summers are amazing and winters are really long and cold, so it was becoming more frequent than I would schedule vacations. And I finally said, you know, I think I'd like to make a permanent change. So I thought about it for a long time. I, I, when I lived in Michigan, I was a school teacher, a Montessori teacher for many, many years, and I loved the job, but I was just finally ready to do something a little different.

Dawn Fleming

02:13 - 03:03

So as I started thinking about how do I want my life to look in the future I wanted to slow things down. I was pretty much, frustrated with how long workdays were and how intense workdays were. And as a teacher, well, any teacher that has just lived through, you know, the S the quarantine and in this end of the pandemic knows that there's just a lot that goes into it. So I ended up getting, a yoga teacher training certification, knowing that at one point in my life at that will be a really helpful thing to have, and knowing that I would be able to move, pick up and move to any city and find a job relatively easily. and so in the meantime, I also curated my online teaching and I was able to online, I was able to teach yoga online and do just all sorts of things.

Dawn Fleming

03:03 - 03:05

So, so that was really helpful. but

Anya Fedorowicz

03:05 - 04:15

I think the turning point was one afternoon. I must've been in maybe 2000 end of 2017, or the beginning of 2018. I just had made a little list and it said, you know, retire, moves to Mexico, buys a property, blah, blah, blah. And I think that my first date was going to be 2022. So I have definitely beat my record. I'm, I'm happy to say. and I decided that in the year, 2019, that why wait until 2022 So at that point I just decided, okay, I'm ready for a really big change. There were lots of things coming to an end. I was ready to make a huge jump in my life. And I had started really thinking about how can I make my life in Mexico and what will that look like And so probably a year before I actually moved here, which was in 2019, I believe in the summer of 2019, I started taking some pretty serious Spanish lessons serious, and the fact that I had homework and I had to report it and at least once a week, and I highly recommend anybody.

Dawn Fleming

04:15 - 04:25

Who's thinking about making the move to invest in Spanish lessons, whether you're doing it online or in person. and I can always give a shout-out to my teacher.

Anya Fedorowicz

04:25 - 05:05

I still do take classes. Christy Dick's is online wonderful. And she is an amazing instructor. And, you know, we agreed on a textbook to work on since we were so far apart. And she became a really good friend. So she definitely gave me a lot of insight about speaking Spanish, speaking Spanish in Mexico, and how some of the cultural changes might affect me when I moved here. just because I was open to it, I was very interested. And so I really enjoyed those times that we would meet for class. She ended up offering a summer camp like a summer Bootcamp, and also, I believe Todd here on the island offers an anthropology price.

Anya Fedorowicz

05:05 - 05:48

So he had some students taking their summer Bootcamp. And I don't know if Todd even realizes this, but I ended up joining one of the groups because she was teaching every morning. I said I'm coming for two weeks. I really want to focus on Spanish, which is way different than the once an hour that I, you know,, one hour per week that I was doing beforehand. And after living two weeks in the summer or checking out, you know, what's the climate like here in the summer Can I really do it I wanted to see how life would be. I just realized that, yes, for sure. I was not going to be making a mistake. I was all for it. It was totally worth the risk. And I was ready to just pick up shop and move. And so that's what I did. I ended up quitting job resigning from my job and in Michigan.

Anya Fedorowicz

05:48 - 06:35

And in the meantime, I had been beefing up my yoga skills and curating this online tutoring. So I have a lot of students all over the world where I teach them English. And that's very helpful than of course, the yoga classes. And that was a godsend that during the pandemic I had no idea would come in so handy. Right. and it really, that was a really nice thing to be able to still stay connected to people when I was so far away and so locked in. But after that, I, you know, I decided, well, let's move to this island. Let's make this work. I have yoga training. I can teach English among other things. And I just wasn't worried about it. So that part was easy learning Spanish and saving that money. Those were the harder parts, and those are still things I'm working on.

Anya Fedorowicz

06:35 - 07:20

So I think my best advice is to learn the language, or at least be conversational. That's going to be a huge, huge, huge deal breaker if you don't have any Spanish because I don't think that you're really going to be able to live like locals or, or, you know, really absorb the full culture only because you'll always be looked on as an outsider. At least if you can communicate, you know, you can get a lot further. And I think you get another, another view of what's really going on in the city or all over Mexico. So for me, those were two big things. but like I said, I'm still working on saving money and learning more Spanish because I think those are two things that will never stop for me. but those would probably be the biggest pieces of advice that I would give to anybody considering it.

Anya Fedorowicz

07:21 - 08:19

And then the other thing, once you are committed to making the move, just get rid of everything that you have. I was just going to ask about the stuff as well, and I'm sure all of your guests that you've spoken with say, wow, did I have a lot of stuff when I lived home, wherever home was, you know, I'm from the states. So for me, it was at Michigan. but yeah, you know, at one point maybe you had 24 piece place setting or service for 24 and you probably don't really need to have that here on the islands. Well, for me, for sure, I don't need to have that. but you just downsize and I coming from Michigan where you need to have four seasons worth of clothing, there was just way less. And I think, oh, the year before I decided to finally make the move, I just started getting rid of things, giving you a gradual process, sending it out, slowing down, any purchasing, I didn't need to purchase any more winter coats.

Anya Fedorowicz

08:19 - 08:50

I knew that what I had would probably last me for the rest of my life at this point. And yeah, that, that part, it was just, it was a really nice purge when I finally packed up my last, I think I moved here with five suitcases. Wow. Two suitcases were full of things that I thought I might need for teaching or for yoga. And then three would just clothing, personal belongings. and knowing that really here on the island, you can get whatever you need. It might not be your top choice. It might be a little different than when you expected, but you can for sure find whatever you need, whatever you need. Yeah.

Dawn Fleming

08:51 - 08:55

so do you have any kind of storage back there with anything or your you're

Anya Fedorowicz

08:56 - 09:08

My parents, my family still lives in Michigan, so my parents have been super generous and kind, and they are letting me store some things in Michigan. you know, I didn't get rid of all my winter clothes because well, if

Dawn Fleming

09:08 - 09:10

You travel back there and travel, they still use

Anya Fedorowicz

09:10 - 09:27

It's for sure. And I've kept a couple of my favorite pieces, but I'm talking about plates and dishes and things that I really loved. Then if I decide to treasure able to bring here at some point, but just didn't need to come with me on the first trip. Right. So,

Dawn Fleming

09:27 - 09:29

And have they been here of your parents

Anya Fedorowicz

09:29 - 09:39

But my mom has in my hat. My dad has not yet, but I just went and visited home, in August. And I think they're both planning on coming in this year. So yes.

Dawn Fleming

09:40 - 09:42

How did your mom like it She

Anya Fedorowicz

09:42 - 09:44

Loved it and she said she could see why

Dawn Fleming

09:46 - 09:53

We hear that a lot. Actually. A lot of times people think, you know, their family will say, oh my gosh, you must be crazy. You know And then they come and they're like, oh, okay,

Anya Fedorowicz

09:53 - 10:10

Got it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. She's now retired. So she has a little more flexibility. My dad's still working, so it's not quite as easy for him to just pick up and leave, but at some point, we'll all reunite here versus stateside. So I'm, I'm looking forward to that.

Dawn Fleming

10:11 - 10:24

Great. So how, what about friends, would do, did you find that hard leaving friends behind both sides of it So there's the ones that you leave behind and then there are the ones if you can talk a little bit about that.

Anya Fedorowicz

10:24 - 11:08

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I, my hobbies back in Michigan, we're in kind of three district distinct drowns, so it was hard saying goodbye. I had my friends in the yoga community, I was an avid salsa dancer. And then I had sort of a fitness community, a mineral that I just, you know, I just, those were the people that I spent time with. So yeah, that was a hard goodbye. since I've been living here, I have had many good close friends come to visit. So that is always an amazing thing to be able to share and show this experience with them. And then, of course, my travel back, I always make it a point to try to, to visit maybe have a little get together with each of the groups, but yeah, that leaving friends difficult, however, with the dominance of the internets,

Dawn Fleming

11:08 - 11:23

Well, I was going to ask, are you able to do zooms I'm pretty sure were times or whatever, so you can still stay in touch. Technology's amazing for us to be able to do that. And that's how people are staying connected in the United States anyways. the last week.

Anya Fedorowicz

11:23 - 11:37

Yeah. I would never have known and I feel so grateful that I moved here before. Right. Just to have, I I'm just so happy that I had the time to spend here versus back in Michigan. Sure, sure.

Dawn Fleming

11:38 - 11:39

So, and then making friends here,

Anya Fedorowicz

11:40 - 12:26

And it was nice that I came down with some friends already. I mean, having, having, and making friends right away. I remember, I mean, for me, yoga, scuba diving, salsa, dancing, those are my favorite things. And, I right away searched for some communities to get into, of course, as a yoga instructor, myself, that wasn't difficult. little did I know then things would shut down a few months after arriving, but the salsa community here is amazing. And I big shout out to the Astros. Also, they are so much fun. They're great instructors. And whether you plan on investing a lot of time, or you just kind of want to know a little more or the basics they offer private and group lessons, and just, it's just such a lovely, wonderful group.

Dawn Fleming

12:26 - 12:31

Now, is that a studio Is it that, is that the one that was downtown or

Anya Fedorowicz

12:31 - 13:11

Downtown I believe is Renata's status and she, I think I'm sure she teaches also that she really works on all her, her dancers are great. They're amazing. But they have, you know, valley tap, jazz, pop, Astros in LA, Gloria, and here the second donut Susa. Okay, sure. The one now I can't think of work. No, I know where it is. Okay. Yeah. And yeah. And so they have an outdoor studio, so they were able to, once we got the green light to open up for outdoor classes, they were able to add, it was one of the first really fun things I remember doing after we were allowed to leave our houses.

Dawn Fleming

13:13 - 13:32

Well, it's really, yeah. It's really fun to look forward to something like that. especially you appreciate it so much more after you've been denied. Right. So the community aspect of it. Awesome. what about, talk to me a little bit about transportation. Did you end up buying a car or

Anya Fedorowicz

13:32 - 14:46

So my partner and I, ended up purchasing, matching CNIT motorcycles, motos. one is in retirement right now. We have one working, but this, I learned how to drive. technically I think it's a motorcycle. It does need to be shifted so quite as easy as it could be, but I love it now. And we ended up purchasing a car. So I would say that if you are thinking about moving to the island, you could easily get by on just a bicycle and taxi because transportation is abundant, especially with the buses and especially with the buses. And I love that I come from a really small town just out of Detroit and you, that taxi didn't exist. Uber didn't even, I mean, I think Uber now is in the city, but, when I was, you know, two years ago or three years ago before I left it, wasn't it wasn't there. So you couldn't go out and then find a safe ride home if that if you needed one. but here on the island taxis, and it's just so convenient. So I don't think that you have to have transportation before you make the move. I think that part's easy and there are all sorts of options right after you get here. It doesn't have to happen first

Dawn Fleming

14:47 - 14:51

From your point of view. So, had you ever ridden the motorcycle

Anya Fedorowicz

14:52 - 15:36

No, never. And in Michigan, I mean maybe an ATV as a kid, but never a motorcycle. And for sure, I never expected that I would be the Driver of one. So that was a huge change. That was a proud moment when I finally learned how to do it. And honestly, it did feel like I was giving myself some more freedom to be able to move around the island at my own pace, which I loved. but again, you could do that on a bike or a shelf cart, but the motos, I think are the way to go. Were you scared I don't think so? My boyfriend is an incredible teacher and he gave me all the tips and he's very, very, very careful and safe. So, I think I graduated from his driving school with a plus.

Dawn Fleming

15:37 - 15:46

Excellent. Well, it helps too that the island is so small, so you don't, you never go that fast, right You don't, it's not like there's freeways or any, you know, fast-moving near

Anya Fedorowicz

15:47 - 15:57

Stoplights. And I love that. I love it because I'm not really a huge fan of driving. I don't dislike it. I just would prefer to not have to do it.

Dawn Fleming

15:57 - 15:59

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17:50 - 17:54

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Dawn Fleming

17:55 - 18:03

So, I also would love to hear a little bit more about the school and kind of working with the kid or the little kid.

Anya Fedorowicz

18:04 - 19:05

Yeah, well, I, before I moved here, I was a tourist and was, very intrigued to find out that there's this beautiful little school and I am a Montessori teacher. So it lined up with a lot of what I was already doing. It was a mixed age group. There was a lot of hands-on learning. The kids really believed in caring for the planets. and it was just a community of like-minded parents and families. So I remember bringing some donations down and I know there are so many amazing tourists that do that. Not only for, for the little school that I'm associated with, but for all of the schools and the children on the island. So I think that's a really beautiful thing about the visitors that come to the island. And I know it's just so much appreciated. so I remember just, you know, bringing things down, random things that one little girl, opened up a pack of glue sticks I brought and she went, oh my gosh, they're the purple kind. And so you just don't think about that because, you know, you don't, but here on the island, you get really

Dawn Fleming

19:05 - 19:07

Limited as far as what they can get shared.

Anya Fedorowicz

19:07 - 20:06

There are glue sticks. They're not quite as inexpensive as they are in the states. And I guess they didn't have the purple. Yeah, that was great. so I really love that. And, and the school, you know, was looking for somebody to come in and work. And I remember just being really curious about how they were running their program. you know, I came from a school with amazing resources, and also school was just an amazing community and family and people would come together to do huge things. I think one of the last big projects I worked on, was putting a little school track or running track together. And so I was really used to just coming with a group of people and just getting things done, things that were going to make lives better for everybody. And I really felt that that was what, what the schools here on the island wanted to do to maybe not, I don't know all of the schools individually, but the one that I was working with and I was really happy to come and bring more books and more supplies and had a good connection to also invite, you know, people that were coming to visit me.

Dawn Fleming

20:07 - 20:37

and I've made a lot of great friends too and said, Hey, we want to bring books. And we see that you're associated with the school. Can we bring donations So thank you to everybody who has done that? And, you know, I, I really appreciate it and I know the school does too. but yeah, they were looking for more, more people to come and teach English and to just work in, in their system. And so I was really happy to be that person. And, we worked out a really nice agreement and it just felt like moving into a second home. So I'm really happy to be here.

Dawn Fleming

20:37 - 20:41

Nice. And then, so I assume they did they lockdown when everything shut down. So

Anya Fedorowicz

20:42 - 20:55

Yes, yes. And the nice thing was that I was able to offer instruction online and we were able to still meet and still do a few things. You know, it's really different teaching online is many especially,

Dawn Fleming

20:56 - 20:59

Right. I mean, you, I can't even imagine how challenging

Anya Fedorowicz

20:59 - 21:36

And that must be right. And for, you know, there's like an age group that probably was hit hardest with online schooling. And that would be, you know, the three, four, and five-year-olds olds who really need to have hands-on in-person and in-person interactions. You know, the older students who already knew how to watch a video and take instruction this way. We'll probably come, I'm sure even liked it better just because you could do it on your own time or hit pause or that kind of thing. but then others, yeah, it was just, it's a difficult time, but I was happy to still make the connection and to be able to see little faces, mostly.

Dawn Fleming

21:36 - 21:44

Did you, were you able to collaborate with other, S says Montessori schools or whatever, and figure out like what's working best and all that

Anya Fedorowicz

21:44 - 22:60

Kind of best practices or, you know, it's funny, you said that because we, here we are in Mexico, but we're, we were about two to four weeks behind what was going on in the states. They locked down first and I think we locked down maybe two weeks later. So my old school that I worked at, they were just doing things like by the seat of their pants. Everybody had to basically get out on a Friday, I'd show up Monday morning, but online. And for so many teachers who were probably just thinking about, at the end of my line here, I'm ready to retire. And I was not thinking about learning how to teach in a new way for my last year, the last two years of my career. so people did really amazing things, but it was nice to have that input. And I had a lot of connections from teachers back in the state saying, Hey, this is what we're doing. and I know the teachers here on the island worked really hard. They had a completely different set of resources and, you know, one thing people don't maybe realize quite as much as, as it really exists is that, you know, not everybody has wifi or tablets and I'm not, I'm saying that I know people are already aware of that, but to be able to keep a group of kids moving forward, there needed to be a lot of that kind of interaction

Dawn Fleming

23:00 - 23:06

Speed to, I mean, we don't have necessarily the high-speed internet that you need for video

Anya Fedorowicz

23:06 - 23:41

Exactly. Even best days. Exactly. Even on the best days, those are the days where just things go out. So, that level was the expectation of what was possible. I mean, while we try to keep our expectations very high, I think all of the teachers here in Mexico and around the world with limited wifi and that type of thing really had just to do their best. And they realized that it's just something out of our control. So making adjustments like that, but in the end, it was a great experience. And back

Dawn Fleming

23:41 - 23:43

In in-person,

Anya Fedorowicz

23:43 - 23:54

There are some schools on the island that are just beginning to get back in person. Some are still doing online and I have to just review, I don't know what the last, I think ISA just moved into yellow.

Dawn Fleming

23:55 - 23:58

Yeah. We're in yellow and we're really close to the green. So

Anya Fedorowicz

23:58 - 24:07

Things that The last time I read them, even the little ones would be back in person, I think before Christmas know.

Dawn Fleming

24:07 - 24:26

Oh, good. Yeah. Hopefully, edit that. Yeah, no, that's okay. we just, yeah, we just don't know at this point probably, but, yeah. I, you, your heart, you know, really goes out to those little kiddos that really missed out on that socialization. Yeah. They can get back out there.

Anya Fedorowicz

24:26 - 24:43

Right. And if you haven't learned yet how to read or write and then trying to be organized in front of a TV screen, or you're sharing a screen, if you're lucky enough that your family has one and you're sharing it with three or four other siblings, I mean, there's just were a lot of things going into the mix during that time period.

Dawn Fleming

24:44 - 25:01

Yeah. So, talk to me a little bit about the experience, of teaching English online. Do you, is that something that you've pursued on your own or are there organizations that you have affiliated with to be able to do that If if someone was interested in pursuing that,

Anya Fedorowicz

25:02 - 26:25

I am doing it on my own. I'm not affiliated with any organization. I had a pretty great community. Backward was living in Michigan and often had parents that were happy to have some online tutoring for their children, usually like an afterschool or during the summer. And for days that we couldn't meet in person, we had the option to do it through Skype. And then I think when zoom came around and it was very accessible to everybody, I know that it has it been in existence for a while. but for me, I didn't really start using zoom teaching until, you know, just right at the start of the pandemic, that made things a little easier and it was easier to share screens and to show different content. So I really just relied on what I already knew I was doing with young students, teaching in the classroom, and use that as an approach, just to set up my own curriculum for online teaching English online. Wow. I do have students that come to me for math, tutoring, young students, you know, probably not your gal, if you want high it'd be a lot of work for me. And I don't know if I have like a time right now, but yeah, no, for, for younger students, that's my thing. And I'm happy to help if you've got kids that are struggling with math facts or the multiplication tables, or just don't get long division yet I can do those things. And so online, it was successful at work.

Dawn Fleming

26:26 - 26:37

Yeah. But it sounds like it was as a result of your network, not necessarily for, yeah. I know there are some other resources out there. I've talked to a few other teachers and there are other organizations that

Anya Fedorowicz

26:38 - 27:33

A lot of my friends wins. You know, when the quarantine happened, they ended up picking up extra hours teaching. There were several community schools in China that were asking for us teachers to online teaching. And I, I remember researching it. and honestly, the deal-breaker was the time change. And thank you had to, oh, you're teaching at 5:00 AM. And that just didn't sound amazing to me. but I know that it exists as a, you know, something to fall back on if you needed to. And I think there were three really well known, and I can't think of their names off the top of my head, but if you Google it, anybody who does have those, those skills or qualifies for it, I think you had to have at minimum a bachelor's degree, maybe a master's, which was required. I don't know, but I think it was also a steady paycheck. So just something to think about for people that do need to still have income coming in, but want to be able to just pick up and work remotely.

Dawn Fleming

27:34 - 27:41

Nice. Trying to think if there's anything else that I haven't asked you that any words of wisdom,

Anya Fedorowicz

27:41 - 28:38

Words of wisdom, I think just expect the unexpected. If you are leaving a very high, intense job or a very busy lifestyle, and you're planning on moving to Mexico specifically, I can speak to the island, just slow it down. This is a place to slow your roll. And if you wanted to move to the island and still have kind of a busy, hectic pace, I think you might find yourself a little frustrated and you also might miss out on, some really beautiful things that are happening. Not only with the natural beauty of the surrounding ocean, but just beautiful things in the community. And even though lots of things have slowed down because of the pandemic, you still would hate to, you know, is the Iskey days cartridge or being able to just stroll through the town or a Malecon walk if you had to be on such a tight schedule. so just being a little more flexible, I think,

Dawn Fleming

28:39 - 28:47

Well, yeah, I don't, I don't think this is, a destination for anybody that really wants a fast-paced, busy life,

Anya Fedorowicz

28:49 - 28:52

Or if we wanted to finish anything quickly,

Dawn Fleming

28:53 - 28:55

Right. Impatience is not a virtue.

Anya Fedorowicz

28:56 - 29:10

You're trying to build a house. I have several friends, building houses are going through construction and totally different than construction in the US although I know that it exists in the US super things just take longer.

Dawn Fleming

29:11 - 29:12

Well, especially now in the last year and a half,

Anya Fedorowicz

29:14 - 29:27

And then being on an island, everything has to be shipped in that's right. So where you could go to Lowe's and search for something, and they don't have it probably home Depot does, or the Home Depot in the next city. It doesn't work that way here. Right.

Dawn Fleming

29:28 - 29:29

Don't we know that

Anya Fedorowicz

29:30 - 29:31

For sure. You too.

Dawn Fleming

29:33 - 29:41

Awesome. Well, thank you so much for chatting with me this afternoon. I really appreciate it. And, yeah, I can't wait to head over to the yoga studio.

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29:49 - 30:23

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